Tuscany Casino Dumps All Live Table Games

Lots of Las Vegas casinos are cutting labor costs by replacing select live table games with electronic versions, but few have eliminated dealers completely.

The off-Strip Tuscany, however, recently shut down and removed all its live table games.

Tuscany casino

Cussing at a machine is the new cussing at a dealer.

At one time, Tuscany had about 11 table games, but that had been whittled down to five in recent months.

Tuscany isn’t the biggest casino in town, but it’s a microcosm of recent cost-saving trends.

The harsh reality is electronic table games don’t take breaks or vacations and don’t require health insurance. They’re also touted as being more appealing to younger players (not exactly relevant at Tuscany, but that’s what the machine manufacturers claim).

Here’s a quick walk-through of the former table games area at Tuscany. It’s a little wobbly for discretion reasons, not rum reasons.

The pandemic caused Las Vegas casinos to tighten their belts, and another small casino, Casino Royale, eliminated its table games in July 2020. That was a swift kick to the chicken tenders, as Casino Royale had some of the liveliest craps tables on The Strip.

In some cases, table games aren’t removed, they’re replaced by machines requiring fewer dealers.

For example, a number of casinos now offer Roll to Win Craps. The electronic table has one dealer, down from the traditional three (four if you include the boxman).

Roll to Win Craps Las Vegas

This table at Harrah’s consistently draws a crowd due to lower table minimums. These games are here to stay.

Ultimately, the removal of table games is a result of evaluating demand and business needs.

Visitors frequently note $5 minimum games are increasingly difficult to find, but that’s because if you calculate labor costs, these games can actually lose money.

Here’s a surprising fact: One player at a $25 minimum table is ultimately worth as much or more to the casino as a full table of $5 players.

In the case of Tuscany, we’re told table games just weren’t a big draw. The cost-benefit analysis resulted in their permanent closure.

Tuscany casino floor

We still love you, Tuscany, it’s just a little weird.

It’s a shame, because table games are part of the fabric of the Las Vegas casino experience.

A casino without a craps table is like diet Coke without Captain Morgan. You can do it, but it’s a very different experience.

While blackjack tables may not be Tuscany’s strong suit, the casino is still a great place to play other games like video poker. The pay tables are generous, even at the bar.

We are not a math person, but the pay tables at Tuscany are known for being sexy.

Tuscany’s Pub 365 is reliably good, and the casino also boasts a new Circa Sports sports book.

Related: Whoever negotiated that deal needs to get a promotion. From the right angle, it looks like Tuscany has been rebranded.

Thanks to our college theater classes, we will not make the mistake of saying the Circa sign upstages the Tuscany sign. It steals the spotlight, however.

We understand Tuscany’s sports book has been crushing it, which we would not have really predicted, although sports betting is admittedly a smidge out of our wheelhouse.

Parking remains free and easy at Tuscany, so there’s that.

While we didn’t play the table games at Tuscany often, we’re sorry to see them go.

Every time a table game closes in a Las Vegas casino, an angel loses its wings. And lately, there are a lot more wingless angels.

20 thoughts on “Tuscany Casino Dumps All Live Table Games

  1. JP

    Since these poor poor casinos are losing so much money when their tables are set at $10 lets do some quick math on a craps table that has four dealers (more than other games). According to Glassdoor the average MGM dealer makes $10/hour. Considering craps dealers are some of the more skilled workers lets bump that to $15/hour. So the casino needs to make $60 off that table in an hour to break even. Assuming an 8 player table (which certainly is achievable when greedy casinos keep a low minimum) and rolls of 60/hour. With those 8 players JUST betting $10 pass line and $10 odds the casino take is $55 on average. Now start throwing in the more casino friendly bets like place bets, hard ways, horn bets, etc which have a significantly higher theoretical loss and the casino haul on average is way more than what they are playing their workers. Also that is assuming no one at the table is playing more than the min and that there are only 8 players. I would say the other games which have higher house edges in most cases and only 1 dealer are making quite a bit more than a craps table. Bottom line is these casinos refusing to drop below $25 min unless they steal a job from a worker and throw out some garbage electronic version of the game is nothing more than corporate greed.

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    1. Jackson

      That’s not an accurate analysis because you’re not including the cost of providing benefits to the employee.

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      1. JP

        For a large company like those on the strip the cost of benefits is minimal. They get a group discount. Throw in $5-$10 more per hour for each of the 4 employees at that table which is on the extreme high side and you still aren’t even close to the theoretical win of the casino. These casinos are liars and will spin it how poorly they are doing but if they were so unprofitable then you wouldn’t be seeing companies pay crazy amounts of money to buy out these places. It is corporate greed and nothing more, their rich investors require higher and higher dividends and the only way they can achieve that is to lie and cheat the customer base. Vegas as a tourist destination is going to disappear entirely if these casinos don’t watch themselves. It already happened to Atlantic City for the same reason. I can go to a casino anywhere around me now, Vegas was special for different reasons and they are slowly taking those reasons away.

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        1. Michael Alexakis

          I agree, it’s naked corporate greed, and it is eroding my desires to visit, if they lose people like me who are cultishly devoted to it, it will trickle down to more normal folks… I already have resigned myself to possibly never playing craps again, my goal in craps is to backload money behind the pass line, the giant front line bet minimums are designed to manipulate players like me, challenge us to break our own rules, I am not addicted to gambling, so their disgusting ploy to usuriously profit off of me only deepens my resolve. Video poker is in bad shape, live poker is disappearing, and the food prices are insane… I will come, I love Las Vegas, I love Hugo’s Cellar, but I will lose the larger than life obviously wrong value judgement I attribute to it. If the local card clubs start this crap, then I will have nothing, so I certainly hope this putrid trend fails. I do not usually root for failure, but this is an exception. I have instructed my family to shoot me if they ever find me sitting in front of a Snow White themed slot machine…

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          1. JP

            Agreed Michael, I typically go twice a year minimum. I went in March and it was by far the worst trip there I have ever had in about 25-30 visits. I am supposed to go again in October or November but with all the stuff I am hearing I am seriously debating on tossing that idea. Like you if this trash continues I hope they fail miserably. If that means casinos closing in masses then so be it, there will be other more customer friendly locations there to take their place. The ONLY reason they can get away with this right now is because of the large flux of people that haven’t been able to travel for a year and a half. That crowd will begin to fade and they will start to see the same decline in visitors they saw pre-pandemic, except with an even sharper drop due to the terrible customer service and bone headed corporate decisions to axe everything that made Vegas better than the ever growing number of local casinos we can visit.

        2. Jackson

          “For a large company like those on the strip the cost of benefits is minimal. ”

          No. That’s false. Benefit costs don’t decrease simply because the company is large.

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          1. Michael Alexakis

            I disagree, I used to be in charge of employee benefits, health insurance companies will compete for big groups, the more employee’s you have the better leverage you get… Big groups have built in diversity, the insurance companies offer you a price per head, they do not individually underwrite and investigate people’s health histories anymore…

          2. JP

            I hate to have to point out common sense but obviously you don’t understand how insurance works. The goal of the insurance companies is to mitigate risk cause that way they will always be profitable. The larger the employee base the lower the risk. Insuring one person even if healthy is a risk cause they could get into a car accident and cost the insurance company a ton once the deductible is met. However if that same person was in a pool of 5000 employees now that isolated incident no longer is as much of a risk since they are getting premiums paid by 4999 other individuals. Not to mention that the more people that an insurance company covers the more leverage they have with hospitals and doctors over rates. So yeah my comment is true.

  2. Andrew

    The Tuscany reminds me about when I made a point of enrolling in ALL of the casinos players club in town in one day just for the fun of it,back in 2000’ish. You have to consider that back then every casino was unbundled from each other and they all had their own player club cards, so that has been a massive effort . I do still remember the player club rep at the Tuscany being and extremely rude and overweight man. He was very rude to everyone. He was mean and rude even to an old lady on a wheelchair, what a jerk !
    Well, that’s still the first thing that comes to my mind if I think about the Tuscany. An extremely rude and overweight guy with a coffee stained polo shirt working at very important position and being a total jerk about it…

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  3. Phil

    It’s amazing that back in the day they virtually gave the food away, the crowds were no where like they are today and yet they all made money with tons of tables with low minimums. Tuscany is not bound to the big corporate goons nor pressure to increase stock prices, what the hell are we missing?

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  4. Tom

    I sure hope that Casino Royale eliminated the craps tables only due to Covid and their at-risk dealers in their 70s+.
    Hopefully in time they will return.

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  5. Mark

    Never been in the joint, so I cannot dispute your “generous, even at the bar.” VP paytables, though vpFree2 lists a very average bartop 9/7 DB as their best game. Your photo doesn’t show the game, which is essential in determining if it is any good, even with the progressive shown.
    I guess ‘generous’ could mean many different pays, but I suspect that one would go through a lot of coin to get some of those hands, on those average games.
    Since they are off-Strip, they should offer better paytables.

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      1. Mark

        That’s certainly true, if they can get enough of the un-educated to play those lousy odds. Of course, many don’t know or care about their odds. They are only there for the ambience, drink service, club points, etc.

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  6. david

    With all of the burdensome HR rules and regulations as well as all the federal, state and local employee related mandates/rules/laws/fees, etc, i too would try and reduce how many employees i had if i owned a casino.

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    1. Michael Alexakis

      Nevada is the most corporate friendly state west of Delaware, currently there are way more jobs available than there are applicants. If laws and rules were preventing companies from hiring human beings, the local housing market would be plummeting instead of rocketing to the sky… A political philosophy and $3 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks…

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  7. Ann MacaBee

    Electronic games don’t call in sick. They don’t need vacation/sick days. No clothing allowance to worry about. Electronic games don’t whine about what hours/ days they’re working.

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    1. Scott Roeben Post author

      True, but no banter, no stories, no jokes, no character, no charm, no old-timey jargon, no humanity.

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