Behold the Future of Dice, Roll to Win Craps Arrives at Harrah’s Las Vegas

Like it or not, the future of craps has arrived in Las Vegas. Harrah’s is the first Las Vegas casino to have Roll to Win Craps, a multi-sensory new take on a quintessential casino game.

We fully expected to hate Roll to Win Craps, but after our first test drive of the game, we’re thinking it’s a fun alternative to the traditional dice game and you should fully expect Roll to Win Craps to be in every Vegas casino within a year or so. No, really.

Trust us, we never expected to type those words.

Here’s a look at the game we’ve decided to call “Pew Pew Craps.” Because everything’s better with “pew pew.”

Roll to Win Craps

Roll to Win Craps. This ain’t your grandpa’s felt.

Roll to Win Craps is aimed directly at a younger generation of casino customers.

From what we’ve seen so far, reactions to the game have fallen into two camps: 1) Abomination. 2) Bomb. (Alternatively, fleek.)

Thankfully, you don’t have to choose sides. Traditional craps tables aren’t going away anytime soon. Pew Pew Craps just gives customers another option.

Roll to Win Craps

This table was full during our entire session. Hint: It’s the minimums.

While the visual stimulation may appear to be the biggest draw of Roll to Win Craps, it’s actually the lower table minimum.

At Harrah’s, the table minimum was $10, but $25 at all the other craps tables. Roll to Win was full, the others had a player or two each at most. All those players were looking over at Roll to Win Craps. There’s some serious FOMO (fear of missing out) happening.

Lower table minimums are very appealing to players, but don’t always pencil out for casinos, especially when you factor in labor costs. That’s one of the reasons it’s rare to find a $5 craps table on The Strip these days. It’s a money-loser.

Players often go for a low minimum game, even if the house advantage is greater. (All eyes on triple zero roulette.)

Casinos will be able to offer low minimums on Roll to Win Craps because it eliminates three staff positions. The game requires one stick person, so two dealers and the box man are out.

But let’s get into the game itself, shan’t we? Here’s some video we snagged at Harrah’s, and surprisingly, nobody tackled us. Good luck watching this without hearing “Pew, pew!” in your head!

Harrah’s has always been great about customers capturing photos, and we were happy to see they’re pretty lax about video, too. Just don’t disrupt play or capture images of other players, it’s a privacy thing. Here’s more about how to take images in just about any Las Vegas casino.

So, what’s the lowdown with Pew Pew Craps? Let’s go!

The game has a lot in common with old-school craps, but bets are made via screens at each position on the table. Our table could accommodate 10 players.

No verbal bets, no late bets, no confusion about bets. It’s all on the screen.

One dealer, a stick person, runs the table.

They decide when it’s time for “no more bets,” they then enter the roll into their display and the results are shown and everyone gets paid.

There’s a lot of flair, but those are the basics.

Let’s address some frequent questions right up front.

Q. Does Roll to Win Craps use actual dice? A. Yes. Players shoot the dice just as they would at traditional craps.

Q. Does Roll to Win Craps use chips? A. No. For us, it’s one of the biggest downsides to the game. There’s a lot of upside to this as well, however.

One of the biggest benefits of Pew Pew Craps is bets are paid out perfectly, every time. No chips, no math. No dealer error. Ever.

Longtime players will, of course, be disappointed to hear there’s also no chance of losing bets remaining on the table. Las Vegas lore includes stories of players tipping dealers, then those dealers “forgetting” to take losing wagers.

Not having chips also has unintended consequences. Typically, craps players tip their waitress with chips. That means players have to tip in cash, and waitresses often don’t have change (or time or patience to deal with making change).

Casinos, of course, will tout the fact having no chips adds a layer of health and safety to the experience, current climatewise.

Roll to Win Craps Las Vegas

Here’s a closer look at the Roll to Win Craps screen. You are the master of your domain.

Q. Can you tip the dealer? A. Yes, via a button on your screen.

It’s a bummer you can’t make a bet for dealers on Roll to Win Craps. We suspect this will make it one of the less desirable tables for dealers, although on The Strip, at least, dealers pool their tips, but still.

Roll to Win Craps Las Vegas

We just used $2 as an example. Don’t get your panties twisted.

We predict these games will not inspire a lot of tipping, as the button is easy to miss, and the dealer isn’t really giving individualized service as traditional dealers do.

Q. What’s it like without felt? A. Yeah, that’s a good question. It’s weird.

So, the surface of the Roll to Win Craps table is a sort of clear plastic. Dice players are likely to find this unnerving, as the dice just react differently when they land. Sometimes, the sharp corners of the dice dig in and the dice pretty much stop in place. There are a lot of “short rolls.”

The sound when the dice hit is a mix. It’s either like they’re landing on glass, or they make no sound at all. Just a funky element of the game, but you get used to it.

Q. How do you buy in and cash out? A. It’s just like a slot machine. Cash goes into a bill validator slot. When you cash out, you get a TITO (ticket in/ticket out) slip.

Q. What are the table odds? A. 3x, 4x, 5x.

Lighted craps table Vegas

We approve anything with a volume control, especially relationships. No, we can’t believe we just put that in a photo caption.

Q. What’s the table maximum? A. Like you’re ever going to need to know that! It’s $10,000.

Q. Is a win of $1,200 or more treated like a slot machine win? Does it trigger tax reporting and a W2-G form? A. No, Roll to Win Craps is treated like a live table game, so the slot tax rules don’t apply.

Q. What’s the best part of Roll to Win Craps? A. Our vote is how the game tracks your rolls. There’s a section on your video screen that shows the roll history, but even better is when the table itself shows how many rolls you’ve done.

Not only that, the table actually changes visually the longer you roll. The table goes from a tranquil astronomy vibe to fire. It’s awesome, and there are even levels of fire. Here’s what we saw when we hit 24 rolls.

Roll to Win Craps Las Vegas

When we hit about 20 rolls, the table went from mellow to “Hello!”

Absolutely love this feature!

In fact, there’s a lot to love about Roll to Win Craps, we are pleased to report.

To our surprise, we loved the visuals. When players make a bet on their screen, little laser beams shoot out to the part of the table where the bet is going.

Also, the “point” throbs. Or maybe “pulses” is a better word.

We love that there’s the option to instantly take all your bets “off.” (If there’s a bet that can’t be removed, like a pass line bet after a point’s been established, it has a little lock symbol.)

We never did figure out how to reduce a bet, other than to “cancel” the bet and place it again. That was probably buried in the instructions somewhere. There are about 10 screens of “Game Rules” if you really want to dive into them.

It’s probably best to learn craps at home or on an app, although Roll to Win Craps is a great way for beginners to get their feet wet. You set your own pace, and there’s no pressure from the dealer or other players to bet on every roll.

Our advice is keep it simple: Pass line bet, odds (clearly marked, but on one side of the “Pass,” rather than behind the line as is standard), then place the 6 and 8 (not the Big 6 and 8, although there’s a space for those sucker bets).

As mentioned, a huge perk of Roll to Win is you’re playing your own game on your own timetable. You can skip entire rolls, you can place bets and remove them, you can even play the “don’t” (sometimes called the dark side) if you must. Don’t, but you can.

Electronic craps table

It’s a little awkward having to lean over your terminal to shoot, but you’ll manage.

Experienced players will love the fact newbies won’t dangle their hands over the table! It’s considered bad luck for dice to hit someone’s hands.

Casinos will love the fact that, because of the way the table is designed, the chances of a player spilling a drink on the table is nearly zilch.

We love the fancy cup holders, too! (Although, the lip of a plastic cup touches the side of the holder. Too granular a review at this point?)

The list of things to love about Roll to Win Craps is too long to include here. We even love the fact you can type in your name and have it appear on the table in front of you. This increases the social aspect of the game, despite the temporary Plexiglas dividers.

Oh, and it should go without saying the Plexiglas dividers on the table are related to safety protocols, they’ll be removed as soon as the casino is able to do so.

It’s hard to give this game a full assessment given masks and dividers change the mood of the game. It’s muted, when the intention is for it to be a party, including music and sound effects being piped in through speakers built into the table.

One of the sound effects is people clapping just before every roll. We have no idea how the table knows when someone’s about to shoot, but it happens every time.

Oh, and we loved the fact there are chairs at the table. In traditional craps games, players always stand. Some players still prefer to stand, but most sit. When you sit, though, it’s actually difficult to see the table or the outcome of rolls.

Roll to Win Harrah's

Some sit, some stand, some Captain Morgan. We approve.

What are some other downsides to Pew Pew Craps?

Well, everyone at the table waits for the slowest player to bet. The dealer watches players to get a feel for when everyone’s done, then “No more bets” is called. It feels like it slows the game down.

Roll to Win Craps Harrah's

When the table goes blue, it’s “No more bets.”

This procedure will be off-putting to some players, as they can’t make last-second, spur of the moment bets. Dealers will love this, however. Late bets are the bane of their existence.

Another procedure that slows the game down is the fact the dealer has to retrieve the dice and enter the results manually, as previously mentioned. This really makes the game feel like a slog. Our hope would be this has to do with the fact the dealers at Harrah’s are still being trained on this new game. Otherwise, it mucks with the momentum.

One of the weird rules at Harrah’s is if you want to step away from the table, you have to cash out. They will save your spot, but you have to cash out every time, even if you’re just going 10 feet away to find a bill breaker to tip your waitress.

Electronic craps table

Yes, it made us feel important, but every trip to the restroom or ATM?

One other item we don’t love: Each position at the table has a number. We were well into our roll before we realized we’d sat at Terminal 7. What the hell? The game maker should’ve known to skip Terminal 7 like hotels skip the 13th floor.

Electronic craps table

The casino doesn’t have to worry about people entering inappropriate names because dice players are classy.

Got more questions about Roll to Win Craps? Drop them in the comments and we’ll add them to our story once we sober up.

Overall, we were surprised by how much fun we had at Roll to Win Craps from Aruze Gaming. (Aruze also brought us bubble craps, which has a strong following in casinos now.)

We saw video of the machine when it was unveiled at a gambling industry trade show and vowed to never play. We also swore we’d fight to keep this demon’s spawn from ever making its way into a Las Vegas casino.

Let’s just say we were a tad premature. Trust us, it’s not the first time.

It took one session to make us a true believer.

Make no mistake, Roll to Win Craps isn’t for everyone. But it’s a lively, eye-popping twist on a game that’s seen a decline in popularity in recent years.

Some will steadfastly cling to their chips and felt, but we expect lots of new players will be drawn to this high-tech take on a beloved casino fixture.

As we said, we predict every Las Vegas casino will have one or more Pew Pew Craps tables in the near future. Not just because of the cost savings for casinos, but due to popular demand.

58 thoughts on “Behold the Future of Dice, Roll to Win Craps Arrives at Harrah’s Las Vegas

      1. KGB

        Do the bets pay out true in dollars and cents? Like if you placed $10 on the 6, does it pay 11.67? Or is it programmed up round all those up to the nearest dollar.

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        1. Adam

          Pay is exact. No rounding. The table minimum can even be placed on the 6/8 and accounts for the math. So, if you wanted you could place a 5 dollar bet on the 6/8 and be paid accordingly.

          I live in Omaha, NE and our local Iowa side Horseshoe Casino (Harrah’s property) has had one of these for about a year. It is a 5 dollar minimum. The traditional craps games are 15 dollar minimums (one 10 dollar game can be found during the weekends).
          I am mid 30’s and I enjoy the lower minimum, but I do miss the interaction with the dealers and the feel of the chips compared to a traditional game. I usually play the “pew pew” game to start and then roll over to the 10 dollar game when it opens.

          And, to other comments below… It is similar to any other slot machine game in that it can accept your players card and track your points based on the action of the roll. So, if you only place the 6/8 and a 4 rolls. There is no action on your players account. If you are hunting for tier credits it can be a slog compared to playing video poker or slots.

          There are various other bets that can be made (hop bets, hardways, and horn bet). Also, our local pew pew has a “lucky shooter” bet that can be placed for a new shooter that pays different amounts on the number of rolls made. Other versions may have different bets.

          It scratches an itch so to speak, but you may be like me and begin to miss the interaction with the dealers and the tossing of the chips. Sometimes, it is just fun to yell out “Horn High Yo! Two way!” and toss a nickel to the stick.

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    1. Ryan Barkdull

      If you’ll notice the place bets. The4 10 5 9 6 and 8 all have 2 spots to place your bet. You can place or buy them. You wanna place the 6and 8. They pay a little more than buying them. However,you wanna buy the 5 9 4 or 10. It pays a little more than placing them. Hakunamatata!!!

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  1. BruceV

    What happens if the dealer enters the wrong number into his display? Say a 6 is rolled and the dealer inadvertently enters a 7 and all bets are erroneously wiped out. It will happen.

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    1. Scott Roeben Post author

      Yeah, didn’t happen, but it was clear they were being meticulous, probably for the reason you mention. I trust there’s an “all stop” commend, as it’s probably tricky if you change the result after bets have been paid off.

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      1. BruceV

        Thanks Scott! Sure hope they have a revert command (it is a computer after all) to recover from erroneous inputs. With a human in the loop its bound to happen at some point.

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    2. Shannon Bergeron

      It has happened. There is a way for the casino to pull up your bets, figure out who is owed what, and pay back the bets. The roll may or may not be voided. In NC it was voided, but everyone got there bets back

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  2. Michael Alexakis

    Thanks again Scott, that was comprehensive, enlightening and frightening, you have writing talent, this is outstanding work… Now excuse me for puking on my keyboard and screen, twenty five dollar minimum craps, at freaking Harrah’s??? You have to play circus clown craps to play for ten??? I guess I am out, I love craps, but I never ever let a casino bully me on bet minimums, I am never in a rush to lose my ass, I will do just fine playing video and live poker. I don’t mean to come off like a jerk, gambling is a highly addictive activity/hobby, I take it very seriously, I try to never play like a dummy, I play a long run game with super high discipline. Craps is my diversion into house advantage gambling, the money behind the line pays true odds, but the money on the pass line is subject to a hefty house advantage. But that is all moot if the table minimums run this high at low end strip casinos, they are just not going to get my sacred gambling money at that level, my biggest advantage as a gambler is that I beat my gambling addiction decades ago when I was young and stupid. The corporations are obviously struggling, I wont be the person they want me to be, I will just be myself, I still love Las Vegas and I still long to come back and visit…

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    1. Rhonda Leikness

      Well said!! And, I think the beauty of a craps game is in the company of your fellow tablemates, I’ll stick with live play and low minimum (ElCortez/Golden Gate) It makes me saddened to see yet another 3-4 people sidelined, replaced by a computer!! It was an extremely well written article. Enjoyed the review.

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      1. Michael Alexakis

        Silverton always had $5 minimum craps before the pandemic, it’s a nice little friendly casino, I bet they are now at $10… Someone a couple of weeks back said Ellis Island has $5 craps now…

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        1. Ken

          Yes, Silverton is $10 min. I live nearby and am a qualified Diamond, therefore, I get lots of Free play action every week, otherwise I would play elsewhere. Reason? The pit bosses and boxmen/women are rude as well as at least 1/2 of the dealers. They do comp better than any place in town. 8 players at the table without plexiglass. The play is usually slow due to most players that frequent the joint smother the center of the table with stupid hardway bets etc. The slow action drives me nuts. Hope that helps

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          1. Michael Alexakis

            Thank you Ken, and I do concur that the average Silverton craps player plays every hard way number and sucker bet that exists. We stop at Silverton every trip to Vegas we make, we love Bass Pro and it is a very nice little casino with good video poker and good table minimums. Food is good too. Last time I went we had a great roll, I cashed out right after the hot shooter ended, literally one shooter was all I played. When I went to play video poker I had $10 in free play earned, just from playing craps for 20 minutes.

  3. Mike Scudiero

    Great report. Some questions: no fire or all/small/tall?

    Wonder if this will make player rating more accurate? Anytime it’s electronic, it seems like it should.

    I guess no fear of dice sliding or other cheating on such a smooth surface?

    Also, I second the comment on Harrah’s and their $25 minimums at all traditional tables. They can shove that STRAIGHT up their ass.

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  4. DeMango

    Recently in Biloxi, Harrah’s were the last to come down from $25 minimum line bet. Between this and their new alcohol low balls, I hope punters vote with their feet, out the door!

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  5. Dean

    Ugggghhhhhhly……I think I’ll pass. Make the regular tables $10 limit and you’d have more than one player and make money off them. If my choice is either this or $25 tables, I just won’t play dice at Caesar properties.

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  6. Jimmy

    It says “$10 total minimum bet”. Does that mean you can play $5 on the pass line, $2 C/E and 3 $1 hardways and meet the “total minimum”? Or does that mean $10 pass/DP?

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    1. Michael Alexakis

      Great question, if they are loose about that on the come out roll you could put five down on the front of the line and play five on Big Red or eleven… Not exactly advantage bets, but that would be a foot in the door. I doubt they are magnanimous, my hunch is that they are corporate toady butt rashes… Prove me wrong Harrah’s and the rest…

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  7. Albert Chan

    Such a well-written piece on the future of craps. Roll to Win Craps was installed at Harrah’s in San Diego in 2020 and it’s very popular. I started playing craps in 2019 with bubble craps, and it’s now my favorite game. I can see the new generation of craps players warmly welcoming Roll to Win, in addition to bubble craps because there’s much less intimidation when starting out. Each type of craps game has its pluses and minuses, but Roll to Win-type craps is here to stay due to the cost savings to the casino.

    It’s interesting to note that Roll to Win Craps has lower minimums yet higher maximums than regular table craps. Anyone know why?

    I’m just starting to transition to table craps (because I enjoy throwing actual dice), and now I’m leaning towards Roll To Win Craps because it eliminates dealer error, pays out to the exact amount, I can easily turn my bets on and off, and I can play the dark side a bit more discreetly. Now if only twelve on the field pays triple!

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  8. David Reyes

    Are the payouts the same as table craps? What about certain strategies that can be done on table craps that aren’t allowed on video craps?

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  9. Jason Price

    I’m willing to admit I think I was wrong about this. Initially – especially when I did not know there were real dice – I thought it looked like another dumb idea cooked up for the casino to save on staffing costs. But the more I look at it…I dont know, I might actually like this.

    The thing I hate the most at a craps table is people constantly throwing down last minute bets – it clutters up the table, the dealers hate it AND it puts hands on the table in the middle of the throw. It seems like when the dealers get a hang of the timeline and cutoff point – it seems like this could move along pretty good.

    I dont know, I’m willing to give it a shot.

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  10. JP

    Seems to me that if casinos are so worried about making more money which is why they all have $25 minimum tables now with 0-2 people playing on them, it would make more sense to lower to $10 or $15 min and get them filled. There I go again trying to apply common sense to casino management “logic”.

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  11. Stephen

    What about pressing bets? Does the game payout every winning bet immediately or is there an option to press? Would seem to be somewhat time consuming making bets if you have to start over after a winning wager.

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    1. Gary

      The original place bets stays up, but you would have to press it up manually. On come out rolls there’s an indicator that shows each place bet off, but you can press it to have them working on the come out.

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  12. Bryant

    Scott, thanks for writting this. Great read. When I first started reading, this sounded like an abomination, but after finishing the read, I am intrigued. The comments about regular table mins at Harrah’s are simple economics, to which the high school dropout pit bosses don’t seem to understand. Clearly at $25 min at that dump Harrah’s, that is not the intersection of supply and demand if the table is empty. I hate that hard working people don’t get to work a busy table to make a living because of some morons. On new game itself, I would be interested to see if you can bet strategies like lay 4 and 10 and Don’t Pass? I like the electronic roulette games, but my betting strategy is not allowed on them due to low risk (i get a warning about every time I try one). Curious if the same thing applies here.

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  13. DuLac55

    Many questions for you, Scott:
    – I can’t stand the computer generated noise and voice in the video. It seems to me like the “pew pew craps” game would be better and more dealer interactive if they turned off the sound completely and let the dealer be more vocal calling out the numbers (8 hard, 8 the hard way) and “front line winner!” like a normal game. Do you think that would help traditional craps players feel more at home?

    – While the time it takes the stickman/dealer to enter the dice roll may be long in pew pew craps, it eliminates the payout time, which could last minutes at a full table, especially on a hard way point. So, I would think this game is actually faster. Disagree?

    – It looks like the reach to grab the dice is a bit tough with the screen in front of each station. Yes? No?

    – I love the input of your name. I was assuming it just took your name off your players card. Can you change it at any time? This could be really fun entering nicknames. You should enter Cpt Morgan next time!

    Great article and thanks for being our collective guinea pig.

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  14. ThisDumbPolack

    What happens if your winnings exceed the $1,200 like on a slot machine? Does that trigger tax forms paperwork?
    Traditional dice tables don’t trigger Currency Transaction forms until you win >$10,000.

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  15. DoubleDown

    I love this game… I played recently in Cherokee Harrahs and had 58 rolls! should have bet more!

    In Florida, at the Hard Rock, they have this game but the players don’t roll the dice… the machine “throws” the dice… so it is technically a video game, not a dice game.

    One other feature is that the table pays in cents so if you bet $5 on the 6, it pays $5.88… so you can increase bets in small increments (I wish I hadn’t limited my increases, see above!)

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  16. ThisIsYourRapidshot

    Aruze do make incredibly engaging machines! Does anyone know what happened to Aruze Rapidshot slots? Can’t find any in recent times.

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  17. mike

    I played this machine in Florida at Hard Rock. As they can’t have actual dice in Florida, there is a “virtual throw “of dice. More like a video game. Kind of cheesy but beats bubble craps. The layout is similar to real craps so there is a shared excitement when you “throw”. The shooter goes around the table like normal but instead of actually throwing the dice, you swipe the screen in frot of you. There is a timer count down. Bets are paid on real amounts and the machine will ask if you want to bet behind, press, etc. The machine seems to set the time limit to bet. This will mean more throws per hour and with machine calculating pays, it goes quick. All in all not quite as much fun as a real table but still quite cool and better bubble craps.

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  18. Tim

    I’m sure the game will take off with the younger generation, but I like old-school craps with the dealer interaction and pitter-patter. It sounds like a boring, but less intimidating game for the newbie. Also, I really like placing a bet for the dealer when I’m winning; it makes them part of the “us vs. them” vibe.

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  19. Michael Bluejay

    Scott, thanks for the wonderfully incredibly comprehensive review. It’s why I’m linking to your article on the game and not News 3 LV’s.

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  20. Terry Row

    Can you leave bets working?
    Can you leave winning bets up?
    Can you press on a win?

    I love the idea of being able to sit.

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  21. Tony

    From playing bubble craps I can tell you that this game also eliminates the bitter douche who bitches about everything at the table, ruining the game for everyone. There’s a guy where I live who’s a total boof who whines about everything. He throws a little hissy fit anytime somebody sevens out, even if he just sevened out in one minute the roll before. He constantly scoffs at people making bets he doesn’t agree with, and while I have no proof, it wouldn’t surprise me if he holds unsavory ethnic/ racial views. This twatwaffle acts like a spoiled 11 year old who doesn’t get what he wants. He’s tall skinny and bald so he literally, and fittingly, looks like a penis. I won’t be surprised if he would throw his breakfast cereal across the kitchen if his mom did not get him Cinnamon Toast Crunch but gave him Cheerios instead. This dick is so far in my dome when I see him at the casino I just want to leave. Hell, one night I was playing bubble craps to avoid him at the traditional table, and he walked by (probably on his way to the deli to get some douchey sandwich that has bean sprouts or some other nonsense) and rolled his eyes at me. I mean seriously WTF? I purposely avoid the guy and he still finds a way to fuck with me! This guy truly is my nemesis. I bet his name is Tim or Dave or some other stupid name. Thanks for letting me vent.

    Anyway, this game definitely has its advantages.

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  22. Luke Conerly

    Not sure about calling it “Pew Pew Craps”. If the words “Pew Pew” refer to the sound of a laser gun, then maybe we should call it “Laser Craps” instead. It has a much better ring to it. I don’t foresee many adults, outside of die hard gamers, saying, “Let’s hit the “Pew Pew” table!”. Otherwise, great article, I can’t wait to try it!

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  23. Paul

    Seems very similar in concept to the Rapid Roulette tables, which got very popular in the late 2000s/early 2010s for a while. Electronic screens for betting, but a live dealer spinning a physical ball in a real roulette wheel. Was great for newbies, as you could place your own bets (and change them) without having to reach across the table. I spent a lot of money on those tables back in the day…..

    …..and then, they more or less disappeared. Nowadays, I don’t know if there are any more RR tables on the Strip. If they’re still there, definitely not as popular as they were 8-10 years ago, and I’m not sure why. Wonder if a similar fate beckons for these craps tables?

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  24. Deborah A Cohen

    How do they determine how many comp dollars you earned in your session?
    How does it compare (comp dollars) to a real crap table?

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    1. Scott Roeben Post author

      At Paris, for example, it’s one tier credit for every $200 played. That’s the only information I’ve seen so far.

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      1. Michael Bluejay

        One tier credit for every $200 played?! At 5000 tier credits to move from the lowest level to the next highest, that’s $10 million in action! With an expected loss of $14,100.

        Caesars’ website says a mere $5 in slots or $10 in video poker gets you one tier credit.

        https://www.caesars.com/myrewards/earn-and-redeem

        BTW, my reply below to Deborah about comps was intended to go indented below her post; I’d clicked the Reply button in the email I got about her post, but the software put my reply at the end. There’s no option for me to delete my reply and repost it in the right section. Sorry my post is out of order.

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  25. Michael Bluejay

    Here’s how I imagine they handle it:

    On a standard table, the pit crew is guessing how much you’re betting on average and punching that into their computer. Unless you flat-bet the pass line, they’re almost certainly over-estimating or under-estimating your action.

    By entering your bets yourself on the screen, the casino could know your expected loss to eleven decimal places, based not only on how much you’re betting, but also the house edge on each of the various bets. However, I doubt the developer bothered to write the code to do that and the casinos didn’t demand it, so I imagine the casino figures your expected loss to be about 1.58% of your action, which is the reported standard for craps for comp purposes.

    Strip casinos rebate about 30% of your expected loss as comps, but the stingier ones do 20%.

    Click my name in this post to see my Comp Calculator. My feeling is that looking at Craps in the calculator is accurate for both standard and single-dealer electronic craps.

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